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Metal Detectors

Posted by Grand Poobah On January - 18 - 2010

Two Minot bars (owned by the same dude) are installing metal detectors that will be used to scan their patrons Friday and Saturday nights.  Dae Udder Place and The Blind Duck will be using wands to run over people in a search for guns.  I know next to nothing about how the metal detectors work, but I assume they would pick up pocket knives…I wonder about body piercings though.

I don’t much care about this change from a rights perspective.  Currently, by ND law, you are not allowed to carry into an establishment that serves alcohol anyhow.  What I do wonder about though is how much hassle I might get if they scanned me and it picked up my pocket knife and my leatherman…neither of which would be classified as a dangerous weapon under ND statute.  It’s easy to see how changes that someone would look at as being not a problem really only hassles people that are not breaking laws.

I got this information from an article online from the Minot Daily.  At the end of the article it references a guy whom outside dae udder place touched off a few rounds from a .40 in the air.  The article says he had a “dispute with his girlfriend”.  Clearly a violation of law…there is no way of knowing if the guy was legally able to carry the gun, but discharging into the air in town is against the law. They never say that he carried into the bar.  I have a concealed weapons permit, I don’t carry though…it’s a bit of a hassle honestly.  Hearing stuff like this, guys touching off rounds…metal detectors at the door…I don’t have any desire to even walk in to a bar anymore.

Rifle Team

Posted by Grand Poobah On December - 15 - 2009

I like shooting things, I like to hear the boom..feel the recoil and see things explode.  I like the feeling of “power” that it gives me to be able to reach out and touch something like that.  To shoot well takes a lot of practice…lots and lots of practice.  Having said that, shooting is not a sport…hunting is not a sport.  They are recreational activities.  I think people call them sports so their fat lazy no talent asses can feel “athletic” or some shit.  I love hunting, I am an outdoors-man, I am not a “sportsman”.  Shooting is not a sport…

I’m not sure how I feel about this.  One one hand, I like the idea of a school sponsering a shooting team…but on the other hand I don’t like the state coming in and telling a college what they can and cannot have as extra-curricular activities.  I believe it should be the school’s decision and we as consumers will “vote” on that decision each time we spend a dollar in favor or against that school.

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At West Virginia, the rifle team is a point of pride;
Buoyed by grass-roots support, restored program is back in the championship zone
Liz Clarke
MORGANTOWN, W.VA. –More than 60,000 people jam into Milan Puskar Stadium to cheer West Virginia’s football team on Saturdays each fall. This winter, 14,000 will pack WVU Coliseum to root on a Mountaineers men’s basketball team with Final Four aspirations.But neither team is as central to this state’s hard-working identity as one that draws virtually no spectators yet is exceptional on two counts.West Virginia’s rifle team is the only Mountaineers squad to have won an NCAA championship — 14, in fact. And it’s the only team with its own line item in the state budget: a $100,000 annual appropriation that represents a none-too-subtle rebuke to a university that dropped its most decorated sport in 2003.The team’s reinstatement and subsequent reclamation of its status as the nation’s preeminent shooting power is one of the more improbable comebacks in college sports. Instead of aspiring professional athletes, the key players were rank-and-file taxpayers, disillusioned parents and students, and small businesses such as Donnie’s Citgo and Bub’s Bar and Grill that mobilized a grass-roots fundraising campaign and lobbying campaign and forced the university to change its mind. “Hunting and shooting is a big thing here,” says junior Brandi Eskew of Petersburg, W.Va., one of two women on WVU’s rifle team, who learned to hunt alongside her father as a child. “It’s something that pretty much everyone does at some point. And it’s something they can relate to more than a lot of other sports.”This past spring, West Virginia won its first NCAA title since 1998. Off to a 6-0 start this season, the No. 1-ranked Mountaineers are on track to win a 15th championship.”What was not understood was that people appreciated excellence,” said Marsha Beasley, who coached the Mountaineers to eight NCAA rifle titles. “West Virginia comes up ranked 40th or 50th on list after list of things. People had always liked that the rifle team had been on top so much.”West Virginia bills itself as a hunter’s paradise, with 1.6 million acres of public hunting ground teeming with deer, black bear and wild turkey. The two weeks of deer season alone pump $250 million into the state’s coffers, according to the governor’s office. And nearly every family has at least one member who takes part.According to one study, West Virginia ranks fifth in the nation in terms of its gun-ownership rate (55.4 percent), trailing only Wyoming, Alaska, Montana and South Dakota.So it’s little wonder that WVU was a national power from the moment the NCAA designated rifle as a scholarship sport in 1980, either winning the national title or finishing as runner-up every year until 1998.Contested in indoor shooting ranges, NCAA-style rifle is an entirely different type of marksmanship from hunting. There are two disciplines: air rifle, in which standing shooters fire lead pellets at targets 10 meters away; and smallbore, in which shooters fire .22 caliber smallbore rifles at targets 50 feet away from prone, kneeling and standing positions. While some say it’s 90 percent mental, it also represents a withering test of balance, abdominal strength and stamina.That appealed to Bryant Wallizer of Little Orleans, Md., a WVU senior who plans to start training for the 2012 Olympics after graduating in the spring.”Guns kind of have negative connotations, but for me there’s been nothing but good that’s come out of shooting,” Wallizer said. “It teaches discipline, task-performing mannerisms, a very acute sense to detail.”

‘Restore the Glory’ The university’s rifle prowess was the main reason Eskew wanted to enroll at West Virginia. Wallizer says it’s the only reason he even considered going to college. So both were stunned when they heard, while still in high school, that West Virginia was dropping its team, along with four men’s teams — tennis, cross-country and indoor and outdoor track.It wasn’t that WVU’s athletic department was running a deficit. Rather, university officials concluded that the only way WVU could become more competitive in the high-stakes world of college sports was to cut five teams and spend the savings (roughly $600,000 in what was then a $27 million budget) on better facilities and more scholarships.”[Dropping teams] was the last thing we wanted to do,” Athletic Director Ed Pastilong says today. “But unfortunately, that was the conclusion.”The backlash was immediate.Students fired off e-mails. Alumni collected 9,000 signatures on a petition demanding the team’s return. The National Rifle Association wrote letters disputing the university’s claim that the sport was too costly. (The team’s $163,000 budget accounted for less than 1 percent of the athletic department budget.) And most team members refused to stop practicing and formed a club instead, with Beasley, who was kept on the payroll until she found another job, serving as the club’s adviser.”They hung tough,” says Ron Justice, West Virginia’s director of Student Organization Services, who was then Morgantown’s mayor. “They said, ‘We’re going to do what we think we need to do to get this program reinstated.’ “Armed with the slogan “Restore the Glory,” Justice helped the students mount a fundraising campaign to bankroll their club and prove to WVU’s administration just how much statewide support they had.(Though the university had stripped the team of its budget, which meant no money for travel, the students’ scholarships were honored until they graduated or transferred.)An outpouring of goodwill followed, from $2 checks on up. A local Harley-Davidson shop donated an Orange County Chopper as the grand prize for a raffle. A vineyard owner hosted a wild-game dinner. Meantime, phones rang off the hook at the state legislature.

‘I guess we misjudged’ The political maneuvering that followed was tricky. The university chafed at overt attempts to micromanage its athletic department. So with scant debate, West Virginia lawmakers appropriated $100,000 for the disbanded rifle team.Soon after, in March 2004, WVU President David C. Hardesty, a former Mountaineers student body president and Rhodes scholar, announced he was reinstating the team. Today, he insists that politics played no role in the decision.”I guess we misjudged the civic pride and passion West Virginians have in their national championship team,” Hardesty says. “We bear the state’s name. We’re almost as old as the state. We’re the flagship university, and they want us to fly their flag. And we all got back together on what the nature of that flag was.”While the $100,000 appropriation was critical in restarting the team, it still left a $63,000 shortfall, so fundraising efforts continued. Two years into the rebuilding effort, Beasley resigned, feeling the enmity of the fight had undercut her ability to advocate for the team.”The reason we have sports in college is that athletics provides a learning experience that you can’t get in a classroom,” Beasley says. “What the university did in that decision is [say] they didn’t care about the students’ learning experience but said, ‘We want to be in the entertainment business.’ No one would admit it, but there is a certain faction that would like to have just football and nothing else. Or maybe basketball.”One of her graduate students — Jon Hammond, a former world junior rifle champion from Scotland — took the reins with a five-year plan for restoring the team’s prominence.Hammond, 29, who represented Great Britain in the 2008 Beijing Olympics, is well ahead of schedule, having sold promising recruits (including Eskew and Wallizer, who transferred to WVU) on the opportunity to help reclaim that glory. They did that in dramatic, come-from-behind fashion at the NCAA championships this past March.While the rifle team continues to receive its unique annual state appropriation, fundraising efforts haven’t stopped. Since 2003, boosters have raised nearly $1 million on the team’s behalf, with much of that going toward an endowment to ensure its stability.”The good thing that happened in this whole thing was a lot of people are connected to West Virginia University through the rifle team,” says Justice, the university official and former Morgantown mayor. “They might not have a child in school or didn’t attend themselves. But it’s almost like it has been adopted as West Virginia’s team.”

IMAGE; Rifle boots, outfitted with form-fitting leather and flat bottoms, provide stability and traction for rifle team members.
IMAGE; Photos By Lois Raimondo For The Washington Post; West Virginia rifleman Bryant Wallizer lines up his shot during practice at the team’s indoor shooting range. He’s gunning for the 2012 Olympics.
IMAGE; Range monitors provide shooters with detailed data on their target accuracy. That accuracy has produced 14 NCAA titles at West Virginia.
IMAGE; Lois Raimondo For The Washington Post; Brandi Eskew with Michael Kulbacki at practice. “Hunting and shooting is a big thing here,” said Askew, who learned to hunt from her father.
December 15, 2009

Gun range

Posted by Grand Poobah On September - 24 - 2009

There is going to be a gun range opening up in west fargo towards the end of October.  It looks to be small caliber rifles and hand guns.  It would be nice to have a place to shoot a bit in the winter, and to take the kid to mess around with her .22.  We’ll have to see what membership fees turn out to be before we know if it’s worth it or not.  I fired off an email to their information address to see what it would cost, and the response was:

The membership fee of $75.00 is an annual fee that will be assessed each year. You will then pay a $10.00 per session shoot fee. So if you come to the range during open hours to shoot you will pay $10.00.

10 bucks a pop isn’t too bad if you go for a couple of hours each time.  If I take my truck out to Casselton it probably runs me 10 bucks in fuel…so that part is basically a wash.

I also asked about the kid, since she would be coming from time to time.

Your daughter is considered a youth until the age of 13. She does not have to pay any annual fee. Her shoot fee is $3.00 and she must be accompanied by a responsible adult. She is welcome to join in the youth activities we will have to offer.

That part is slightly confusing to me, I assumed she would be a minor until 18 and need to be accompanied by an adult.  So it looks like at 13 she would need her own 75/year and 10/shoot each time.  If I’m paying full price for her, I would hope that she would be allowed to shoot by herself at that age.  If she’s not…then why would I pay full price?  This requires some clarification.

At that price point, I’m going to send in my information and see what it’s all about.  I’ll give it a year and see if it’s something I am interested in.

Their website

The article from the in-forum:

Shooting enthusiasts will soon have a new place in West Fargo to pursue their sport.

The 15-lane, 12,000-square-foot indoor Red River Regional Marksmanship Center is slated to open Oct. 24 at 1640 16th St. N.

The shooting club’s primary focus will be handgun, small-caliber rifle and air gun marksmanship.

“We hope to have a full shoot schedule in November,” said Lisa Dirk, RRRMC secretary-treasurer.

The shooting range will provide recreational shooting, marksmanship and firearms safety classes for members and the general public.

“Five years ago a few of us sat down around beer and pizza, lamenting that we had no place to shoot locally,” said Tim Pederson, president of the nonprofit organization.

“We determined there was a need for a facility like this, and here we sit,” said Pederson, standing mid-range in front of a banked wall of shredded tires built to absorb spent ammunition rounds.

Directly in front of the shooting range is a small control center flanked on each side by observation rooms where visitors can watch participants shoot.

The facility also offers a sizable vault for space to store secure items, Pederson said.

The RRRMC contains two large classroom areas for hunter safety and concealed carry courses – “pretty much anything to do with the shooting community,” he said.

One classroom will also serve as a pellet-gun and pellet-rifle range for youths, he said.

The second classroom can also be used for BB-gun courses.

“We’re pretty youth-oriented,” Pederson said. “If we can get them started young and started right, we will have some pretty good shooters around here.”

The club, to be run primarily by volunteers, expects to draw members from within a 50- to 75-mile radius of Fargo-Moorhead.

“I think there’s going to be so much pent-up demand here that it will just go boom,” said Rick Killion, RRRMC board member and director of advertising and marketing.

“I think we will have more than enough shooters,” he said. “There are all kinds of different disciplines that will find a home here.”

Dirk anticipates several women joining the organization.

“We’re definitely going to gear a program around women,” said Dirk who, as a child was taught to shoot by her father in Maryland.

Her husband, Doug, is also a shooting enthusiast. “We’ve raised our kids around shooting and hunting,” she said.

Gun Range Suicide

Posted by Grand Poobah On July - 27 - 2009

Another person shot themselves at a gun range.  It seems reasonable to assume this is going to lead to some serious restrictions on renting firearms.

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SHARONVILLE, Ohio (AP) — A southwest Ohio woman got some handgun instruction and then fatally shot herself at an indoor shooting range, police said today.

Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public indoor target range that also sells an assortment of firearms. Shooters can also rent handguns at the range, which has 12 25-yard target shooting lanes.

The 46-year-old woman, whose name wasn’t released immediately, died at a local hospital.

Police Lt. John Cook said investigators believe the woman went to the target range for the sole purpose of killing herself. She got some instruction there on shooting a gun, before going into a lane and shooting herself, he said.

Police didn’t release any other information about her.

Jeff Mann, manager at Target World, said today the range was operating normally, but he couldn’t discuss the woman or shooting.

“The investigation is ongoing, so we’re not at liberty to say anything,” he said.

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